“With more water, Murcia will help make Spain great again.” This is how Espinosa de los Monteros closes his intervention.
Espinosa de los Monteros considers that it is necessary to “recognize water as a common good for all Spaniards, to ensure a true network of water highways. Today we are not going in the right direction.”
The unity of Spain, equity, justice, the equality of all Spaniards has a very clear manifestation in water policy. We think that water belongs to everyone and that there is water for everyone,” says the Vox spokesman.
“I think that Vox is the only party that has defended the need to connect the basins through transfers,” says Espinosa de los Monteros.
“There is enough water, but what is needed is the political will to channel it to the regions that need it most,” says the Vox spokesman in Congress, who receives a standing ovation from those present.
Espinosa de los Monteros explains that the Diversion “is a work that has paid for itself thanks to the impressive impact that the economic activity of the Region has had, which has been a great generator of employment.”
The Vox spokesman in the Congress of Deputies considers that “we are facing a purely economic problem.”
According to Espinosa de los Monteros, “the Transfer work is the most important in the history of Spain”.
“The water problem in Spain is not new, it is part of the structural problems of our country. Although we cannot get more rain, it is also true that solutions have been found such as improving irrigation”, explains Espinosa de los Monteros.
It is the turn of Iván Espinosa de los Monteros, Vox spokesman in Congress.
The compatibility of irrigation and the environment “obviously is possible”, says López de Uralde, although taking into account sensitive environments such as the Mar Menor.
The spokesperson for the Ecological Transition of United We Can does not clarify whether or not he is in favor of the Tajo-Segura Transfer; he considers that “it is not a question that can be answered so easily yes or no” and that many factors must be taken into account.
“I think that closing our eyes and not addressing it preventively is the main threat to food sovereignty”, explained López de Uralde in relation to the question about the measures proposed by United We Can to guarantee food security.
“You have to look further and not systematically think about ensuring what is there when it is lost due to the very reality of the data,” explains López de Uralde in response to Manuel Buitrago’s question about his political party’s position regarding the Tajo-Segura transfer.
Juan López de Uralde and Manuel Buitrago.
Photo: Vicente Vicens
“The future lies in reducing water consumption. Spain needs a water transition that goes hand in hand with the ecological one,” says López de Uralde, who also mentions that it is necessary to fulfill the commitment to the Mar Menor.
“This is a reality, that of the data. I believe that a national pact is only possible if the seriousness of the solution is recognized with measures based on science. It is essential to demand coherence from all political forces,” says the Transition spokesman Ecology of United We Can.
“I think that the president of the Community has not asked himself what is fundamental: what is happening with the water, why there is less and less”, criticizes López de Uralde.
“We have a problem because not only does it rain less but it rains worse. Despite this water crisis, the irrigated area is increasing every time and, moreover, it is doing so in all the autonomous communities,” explains López de Uralde, who goes on to list the amount of illegal irrigation in the Region of Murcia, “a serious problem that must be addressed when talking about this issue”.
Juan López de Uralde, during his speech.
Photo: Vicente Vicens
“The situation of our river basins is dramatic”, affirms López de Uralde.
It is now Juan López de Uralde’s turn to speak, spokesperson for the Ecological Transition of United We Can and coordinator of Alianza Verde.
“That the Tajo-Segura Transfer is reduced is very dangerous for the aquifers,” says the spokesman for Citizens in the Senate before saying goodbye.
“We have to look for high-ranking politicians such as Fraga, Carrillo or Felipe González,” Sánchez considers.
Citizens would be willing to “break their chests” to get a pact for water, explains Sánchez. “Sit the whole world at the table as we have already done but at the national level, be this lever to seat politicians, something that is becoming more and more difficult.”
The sensation that Sánchez has is that the media battle has been lost and that in Madrid the situation that the Region is going through in terms of hydrology is not known.
Next, Miguel Sánchez will answer the questions asked by some of those present at the Víctor Villegas Auditorium in Murcia.
Miguel Sánchez asks that “something that has been working well for many years and that has brought a lot of work to this land is not altered by political criteria.” In addition, he repeats that “technical and scientific criteria” must always be followed when making decisions.
“Expensive and desalinated water is going to kill small farmers and make it difficult for large farmers. The slogan is no longer going to be water for everyone,” says Sánchez.
The spokesman for Citizens in the Senate considers that “desalinated water at 1.20 euros is unsustainable.”
“The water from the Transfer could be Social Security and desalination could be private health,” compares Sánchez.
“We politicians should be here to sit down and discuss the technical and not political criteria, of course we must remove our claws,” says the spokesman for Citizens in the Senate in response to López Miras’s statement that politicians should not remove their claws of water policy.
Miguel Sánchez, during his speech this Friday.
Photo: Vicente Vicens/AGM
Miguel Sánchez exposes the “paradoxes” of the Government of Spain when making reports that “contradict” the decision to cut the Tajo-Segura Transfer.
Miguel Sánchez declares himself a “transvasista”, that is, in favor of the Tajo-Segura Transfer.
“We have been campaigning with water for forty years. It’s good enough!” exclaims Sánchez.
The first turn is that of Miguel Sánchez, spokesman for Citizens in the Senate, who apologizes to Edmundo Bal for not having been able to attend.
The proposals of the political parties present at the Forum begin. The politicians will answer the questions that the attendees ask.
The request of the president of the Autonomous Community of Murcia today is to reach an agreement: “We need a national water pact that guarantees water in Spain for all Spaniards, it will not be easy. My position is very far from that of the Government from Spain but that doesn’t discourage me”.
“In a context of climate change and drought, Spain must have a water policy that is sustained over time, that decisions go beyond four years of legislature,” López Miras considers.
Fernando López Miras intervenes in the photo.
Photo: Vicente Vicens
“It is useless to say that we must separate the politics of water. The solution must come through politicians, through agreements between them, with the encouragement of society, but we have to be the politicians who are clear about it”, says Mira.
López Miras proposes as a solution to the water deficit that the rest of the provinces “do the same as the Region.”
“European funds are welcome, but what else do we do?” López Miras asks in relation to whether more can be demanded of the Region of Murcia.
“Desalination is necessary as a complement but never as a replacement for the Tajo-Segura Transfer,” says López Miras.
“After the conflict in Ukraine, it is essential for the State to bet on food and energy self-sufficiency,” considers the regional president.
“Water in Levante is the energy that keeps our industry active,” says López Miras.
“Are we aware that more than 300,000 families indirectly live from this transfer? That thanks to it the water reaches the homes of two and a half million Spaniards,” continues the president.
The president of the Community wonders if the importance of the Tajo-Segura Transfer is known in the national context, “which irrigates 70 percent of the fruits and vegetables that Spain exports.”
López Miras: “This appointment is important to analyze how we see this situation from the Region of Murcia and check how they see it from the rest of Spain.”
Fernando López Miras, president of the Region of Murcia, takes the floor.
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