A marriage of years takes home a piece of furniture to assemble. Around the pieces and the toolbox, they discuss from the simple to the complex. “We had an intuition that the play would do well to be directed by a man and a woman. It’s like yin and yang, and there’s respect,” he says. David Carrillowho directs and stars with Cécica Bernasconi in the play The piece of furniture at the Lucía Theater (Thursday-Friday and Saturday 7:00 pm Sunday 8:00 pm Joinnus).
In the work it is stated that certain things are not said so as not to damage the male ego, right? And Tati tells the audience: “All men should go to therapy.”
(Smiles) I think that in the end Tati ends up empowering herself. In these times it would be absurd to do a work that says otherwise, right? Sure, unless you’re on the wrong side of history. Carlos is trying to stop being a troglodyte, he is trying to embrace his vulnerability, to recognize “yes, I have failed”. This seemed important to me at this time because for there to be a balance we not only have to rethink what it is to be a woman in the 21st century, but also what kind of man is needed.
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They are in a family theater, but maintaining a room has not been easy, since you closed Yestoquelotro in Barranco. How do you see the return to functions?
sometimes have a theater closed is more expensive than doing a work that works more or less. It is very expensive, the equipment breaks easily. That closing again would be almost death, it would be the final blow. Doing theater can also be a riskier activity, but a theater like De Lucía, which is a family business, that is, almost everyone’s dream, seems like an example to me.
Because of the bet that a first actress makes?
Yes, Mrs. Lucia walks from her house to the theater every day. She arrives at 6:30 pm, she goes up to the dressing rooms, talks with Cécica, she talks with me. Seeing one of our first actresses, theater history, receiving the public and seeing her sitting in the last seat in all the performances, that is a living example of resistance, of faith in the theater, but also seeing the theater as a method of survival. For me it is sobering. I’m almost sure that Osvaldo (Cattone) would still be standing if he hadn’t stopped. I feel like a lot of the personalities we’ve lost had to do with the stopping factor. You don’t retire from theater, it’s like being in a marathon.
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And you have also given your opinion on social networks.
It is that there are people who act in plays and there are people who do theater. I am interested in that idea of building theater. I am a cultural activist because I get involved with what happens with others. I’m not only interested in my theater.
A cultural activist can play a lot, right?
One of the things revealed to me pandemic and what I hadn’t felt before —I’ve always felt indifference, and I’ve lived with that— is contempt. This polarization that emerged in politics also concerns us, because now, I don’t know, doing theater is hypercaviar. Now they take advantage of the ghost of Richard Swing to ‘swing’ us all, they say that we are from ‘a caviar machinery’ where all we want is for the State to give us money. And I’ve said “no thanks” to a number of jobs because I didn’t want to be involved.
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What has been learned in the Peruvian theater?
I would like to return to the future, that is, to return in a different way from what was done before. Let’s not go back to the past, let’s go back to doing it better, with better themes, conditions, better works, giving space to worthwhile people, working with our icons that have been so neglected. Now you see the Instagram of the actors, the returns to normality and I don’t want to buy that movie.
Edgard Guillén said that works were being done as a fast food recipe.
For me it is already as simple as that I am not going to risk my life or that of my family by doing a silly job. There’s a virus on the street, and I’m going to risk something worthwhile.
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