In view of the various crises that are also affecting households, Olaf Scholz is not to be envied. At Maybrit Illner, the chancellor deals directly with five citizens.
Update from July 7, 9:05 p.m.: During the talk at Maybrit Illner, Scholz was also asked about the possibility of tax increases in order to distribute the burden of inflation more fairly. However, the chancellor lowered his thumb, because: “We do not have a legislative majority for tax increases.” With a view to the FDP, he added: “This is something where different beliefs exist.” Scholz emphasized, however, that he himself was in favor of a fairer tax system , as was also anchored in the SPD program for the federal elections last year.
Update from July 7, 7:55 p.m.: This ends the round. Illner is certain: “We agree in the round that we live in very dramatic times.” Well then, good night! This bouncer sentence probably doesn’t give anyone a good night’s sleep – true as it is.
Update from July 7th, 7:50 p.m.: Berning criticizes the unequal salaries in Germany. In view of the tax rate, it is financially more attractive for some employees not to work. He also accuses the government of supporting companies that would soon pay dividends to their shareholders.
Update from July 7th, 7:45 p.m.: A discussion developed between Scholz and Lambrecht about Germany’s role in climate protection. The student also dislikes the fact that the EU gives nuclear energy an eco-label under certain conditions. Here the Chancellor insists that the government voted against this taxonomy, but was unable to stop this action.
Scholz meets citizens at Illner: student calls for faster sales turnaround
Update from July 7, 7:37 p.m.: Lambrecht criticizes the use of fossil fuels. She also calls for a turnaround in traffic, which the FDP will block. Turning to Scholz, she asks: “Why don’t you hit the table there?” Because the chancellor is evasive, Illner adds: “Do you let the FDP cook you?” Scholz now refers to the plan to be the first industrialized country to act in a climate-neutral manner . Meanwhile, Lambrecht wants real incentives to encourage people to switch from cars to trains.
Update from July 7, 7:34 p.m.: Mishchenko would have preferred tougher sanctions, such as an embargo, because she believes that would have quickly persuaded Vladimir Putin to give in. Scholz’s reaction: It had been decided to only take steps that were also acceptable for Germany.
Update from July 7th, 7.30 p.m.: Scholz now explains that Germany was the first country to prepare for a possible deficiency and is therefore already ahead of other countries on this point. In addition, he continues to emphasize that it is by no means certain that such a situation as is now feared actually exists.
Update from July 7, 7:25 p.m.: Now Illner wants to know who will have to do without gas first – the companies or the consumers. Berning can even imagine that households will have to cut back first, because ultimately it would not benefit anyone if numerous jobs were lost. He doesn’t understand how it got to this point either. His view of the future is significantly bleaker than that of the chancellor.
Update from July 7, 7:21 p.m.: Stiebling doesn’t want to understand why the government is risking that Germany will be “driven completely against the wall”. Scholz emphasizes that a gas bottleneck that is now in the room is possible, but by no means certain.
Scholz bei Illner: “Solidarity as long as Ukraine needs it”
Update from July 7, 7:18 p.m.: Stiebling does not understand why Germany can impose sanctions on a country on which it is as dependent as it is on Russia. The consequences are finally felt more and more. Scholz points out that oil and coal could otherwise be sufficiently imported. Since this is not the case with gas, there is no embargo here, but the Russian side has throttled the delivery for incomprehensible reasons.
Update from July 7, 7:15 p.m.: Kateryna Mishchenko is asked by Illner about her first insights after fleeing to Germany. The mother of a boy praises the social support, which she also sees as a political prerequisite for aid to Ukraine. Politicians must continue to push this solidarity forward. Your question is how politicians would react if solidarity among the population waned.
So far, Scholz has not noticed any weakening of solidarity and starts talking about the status quo. But Illner doesn’t go along with that and nails him down to how long the government will stand firm. “We will remain in solidarity – at least that is my wish – for as long as Ukraine needs it,” declared the Chancellor. The attack by Russia is unacceptable. “I believe that you can only act with the support of the citizens,” he continues. His impression is that a majority stands behind the path.
Update from July 7, 7:08 p.m.: Next up is Rifka Lambrecht. The student says: “I only got the nine-euro ticket.” But her greater concern is: “I’m afraid that the young will be the big losers.” Here she lists the lack of climate protection as well as the pension system and the national debt.
Scholz refutes the latter. Germany is economically so strong that it will “do quite well compared to many other countries”. He refers to the pandemic, which the Federal Republic has survived relatively well.
Scholz bei Illner: “We’re trying to free ourselves from dependencies in the long term”
Update from July 7, 7:00 p.m.: Now it’s the turn of the couple Cornelia and Steffen Stiebling. He speaks of tripling the costs, but the prices could not be passed on to customers. At the beginning of this year, she had expected “horrendous additional payments” for the energy costs, since she had always bought the energy at short notice. Your question is: “What do you want to do to keep the small and medium-sized family farms alive?”
Scholz does not have good news: “We are trying to free ourselves from dependencies in the long term.” But that does not happen overnight. The first goals are “not quite so exploding energy prices”. It is not possible to push all prices down.
The baker adds: “It’s a miracle that we (the bakery) are still here.” “I don’t know how my wife did it. But she did it,” he emphasizes: “It can’t be a condition.”
Update from July 7, 6:55 p.m.: Ralf Berning will soon be a father and speaks of “great concerns” about the expected costs. The intensive care nurse asks directly: “Is it still worth it for me to work full time.” Olaf Scholz answers “absolutely”, but also points out: “You have to be able to afford life.” He reminds of the family bonus for families with a child, but also the energy flat rate, the nine-euro ticket or the tax reduction on fuel.
It is now a matter of everyone making sure “that the citizens can get by on a low income”. According to Scholz, further help is being considered, but this should not be decided in private.
Update from July 7, 6:45 p.m.: Maybrit Illner’s talk with Olaf Scholz is about to begin, in which the chancellor is directly confronted with the problems and concerns of a handful of German citizens.
First report from July 7th:
Scholz meets citizens at Illner: war, corona and climate as topics
Munich – There is more and more of a queasy feeling in Germany as the peak of summer approaches. This is not only due to the coming weeks, but even more so to the following months. Because not only politics, but society as a whole is put to the test in a special way.
Maybrit Illner also wears it in her last one ZDFpolitical talk round before the summer break and asks directly: “War, Corona, climate – one crisis too many, Mr. Chancellor?” The head of government is by far the most prominent of the six guests. Because Olaf Scholz will face the urgent questions from five citizens, who will certainly demand more than the typical politicians’ answers.
Scholz near Illner: intensive care nurse, student, baker couple and Ukraine refugee ask questions
Ralf Berning, intensive care nurse and 15-year temporary soldier in the Bundeswehr, also expresses his concerns, as does political science student Rifka Lambrecht. The same applies to Cornelia and Steffen Stiebling, who run a family bakery in Thuringia with a main store and three branches, and Kateryna Mishchenko, a publisher and author who fled to Berlin from Kyiv. They are all united by the worries about the future that are nesting throughout the Federal Republic.
Because the war in Ukraine ordered by Vladimir Putin has reached German households at the latest with the throttling of gas supplies via Nord Stream 1. In addition, it is completely in the stars how the third Corona winter will develop, the paper presented by an expert commission regarding the usefulness of the measures in the past caused disillusionment in all camps.
Video: Scholz prepares citizens for a long crisis
Scholz as a guest at Illner: ZDF question about fair distribution of the unreasonable demands
And with all these problems piling up, the actually most important topic – climate protection – threatens to be put on the back burner. Here, once again, valuable time is in danger of being lost. But inflation and rising energy costs are currently the focus of attention – because more and more people are directly feeling them. “How are the impositions distributed fairly?” the question asks ZDF representative.
This question is also on the minds of many people in the country. How Scholz Germany intends to maneuver through these dangerous shoals will be shown by the station from 10:15 p.m. on the usual “Maybrit Illner” slot. The conversation will be recorded at 6.45 p.m. and will then also be available in the live stream ZDF to pursue. An extra service for everyone who wants immediate answers from SPD politicians. Because time is pressing. (mg)
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