The governor of Puebla, Miguel Barbosa, is about to serve two years of effective mandate and three of the constitutional period that runs from August 1, 2018 to September 31, 2024.
As is known, his arrival to the state Executive Power took place in 2018 after two elections: the first concurrent one that was resolved in courts and the second, of an extraordinary type, before the unexpected death of the governor in turn, Martha Erika Alonso Hidalgo.
In an exclusive interview for Puebla newscast, the state president spoke of various items such as the final stage of his term, changes in the cabinet, difficulties during the pandemic, personal losses that he experienced as a result of covid-19, his dealings with the new congresses; He also spoke about political issues, his relationship with Claudia Rivera, his own succession, Morena, among others.
Miguel Barbosa entered the Benito Juárez room where he held the now traditional virtual press conferences every morning.
Barbosa assured that he will not impose a candidate, he does not have Dolphin (meaning that is given to a character related to the ruler in turn) and seeks to transcend as a balanced politician.
After your term ends, who do you see the possibility of taking over from your political group?
-I have not Dolphin, I have decided to transcend, not inherit the power. What does it mean to transcend? use, take advantage of any position that I develop within the framework of the law to be able to make transformations.
I am not adjusting the moments to be able to create an inheritance in power; I don’t think of it that way, believe me. There will be those who say “that is not true”, but it is true because it all depends on the training one has.
In the past all governors wanted to inherit power and today we still see how many governors wanted to inherit power and could not.
I will be the conductor and opinion of the political moments if I behave as a good conciliator of allIf I do not do what I am doing, I simply walk away from the stage because I become a contending party and if I can build a scenario of healthy political coexistence within my party and with all the other parties and with society, I will be an important opinion, if not , not.
He who wants to build a succession by imposing a force does not give to the governor, he has not given.
What are you going to do after your period?
Make up for my wife all the time I owe her and my children and sit down to give my opinion on politics because to be a politician you do not need to have a position, you need to influence and even with an opinion you influence and Whoever my party successor is, I will respect him.
And how do you want to be remembered, Miguel Barbosa?
That they respect me because I respect and I am applying the law, I do not maintain privileges of anyone, I am a simple man.
What is the life of a governor like? At what time do you wake up?
Very early and goes to bed very late and lives and dreams of politics and government.
I make decisions dreaming, seriously, I mean it with truth. In my dreams I make decisions, I made speeches. I have always said that when one falls asleep one becomes wise. Pay attention to your dreams.
What I always look for is maturity. The maturity exercise is a permanent matter. I would like to be more self-critical than I am because I reflect on what I say and what I do; I say and I do not say and believe me that at night and then I regret many things.
How about what?
(Laughs) My mouth is very loose and then I talk too much and I should talk less, I make a lot of jokes but it is part of my character.
.Is there a good relationship with the elected mayor of Puebla?
Well, there will be an institutional relationship, this issue of the club of friends does not exist in politics but rather an institutional relationship.
What message would you give Eduardo Rivera and all the mayors so that they do not end a confrontation like the one that exists today (with the government of the capital) that in the end ends up affecting citizens?
No good, it all depends on goals, projects, aspirations and believe me that I will promote everyone’s projects, I will be everyone’s ally and maybe in the case of Puebla What they saw is that their projects and goals were competing with me and that was not the case, they were wrong in that sense.
(…) I had a very cordial, very constructive relationship with 216 mayors and mayors; I just didn’t have it with the capital.
At what point did that relationship break up?
Well, there never was because they didn’t want to build, because I think the president (Claudia Rivera) saw me as a political contender.
When you are making your present, what you are building is your future, that later the present becomes the past and that stays there.
Does the leadership of Morena, your party, have to be renewed in Puebla and at the national level?
I don’t know why I’m not in Morena directing Morena. What has been said is that there will be a renewal in October, I hope there will be one and I pronounce myself to make it so.
Is this renewal healthy?
Sure. If in 2018 Morena had been renewed in all its instances and they had allowed the arrival of all the people of the citizenship who came to Morena in 2018, today Morena would have been a great political or organizational instrument but they did not.
Do you feel supported by your party, by Morena?
Look, I believe in Andrés Manuel and there I stay, my boss is called Andrés Manuel López Obrador.
From August 1, 2019, the date on which he assumed the position of governor, to date, Miguel Barbosa has 15 changes within his cabinet: in the Ministry of the Interior, two; in Administration, two; Public function, three; Culture, one; Tourism, two; Infrastructure one; Mobility and Transportation, one; Health, one; and in Public Security, two.
Unlike other governments that sought to hide the errors of their administrations, Miguel Barbosa recognizes them and sets out his route to correct the course.
In one year and eleven months he has been in fifteen relays within his cabinet. There will be more?
There may be 22 anyway (laughs).
Could there be an adjustment to the remaining leg of your term?
Are we going to see these changes soon?
Gradually and yes.
Has the decision to make these changes been due to incapacity, has there been corruption, have there been irreconcilable conflicts?
For many reasons.
What is the common denominator?
For many reasons that have to do with the lack of fulfillment of goals, period and it’s over. And that also has to do with some behavior that did not conform to the program, until the law then I do not doubt. I invite honest people to be part of my government.
It has three secretaries of Public Security. How serious is the corruption inside so much that they have had to leave and with very serious accusations?
A government is obliged to take over whenever it is required and it is not a matter of government weaknessIt is a strong government because I am obliged to do so and we already have three secretaries of Public Security, this is the third and the first (Miguel Idelfonso Amezaga Ramírez) had to be relieved by a very special security situation that It happened when three medical students and an Uber driver were murdered. A relief was necessary and a relief was given.
And the second (Raciel López Salazar) sí for a deviation in a generalized behavior of his team And I’m not just complaining, there are criminal complaints.
Did you divert resources?
I do not have that information because it requires the completion of an audit that is in progress, but the performance of your teams was illegal.
Did they ally with the criminals?
Did you have the enemy at home?
It is that they are people who come and settle in a place and think about doing business and they associate with people who do business, preferably criminals.
Does the Municipal Police of the capital add or subtract from the new security strategy?
Does nothing. It just doesn’t do anything, it stops pure drunks.
Do you think things will change in October?
I’m sure if.
What will the new body that will replace the Directorate of Roads be like?
It is already. It is an organization that has to do with pure technical issues to prepare accident reports, to be able to carry out the technical studies that are required and nothing to do with the imposition of sanctions.
It’s over … I’m done. The Directorate of Roads of the Ministry of Public Security and all the transit delegates of the Ministry of Mobility and Transportation everything is at zero today.
In the case of transport we are going to make a call so that lawyers who have knowledge are preferably summoned, that they are given tests of confidence, of antidoping in everything that involves a matter of legality because they are people who got rich. The people who had to regulate the transport were in charge of overlapping it and that is inadmissible today, what do you think?
There has been talk about frontal combat against corruption as the flag of Q4. As soon as the topic of mega thefts in museums was revealed, there is talk of millionaire embezzlement. What is happening and why are those white-collar officials, as López Obrador says, not facing justice?
In Puebla yes.
There have been cases, we have the issue of Eukid, some undersecretary, but why not a first-level secretary who was the one who made the decisions?
There are already arrest warrants for several secretaries.
I will not say because it is part of the secretariat but there are already arrest warrants against several secretaries and there are some who have already put land in the middle and there are going to be many more.
So there are fugitives who are hiding?
Yes, because in every work that you discover there is always corruption and I am going to moderate my public elements to take care of a coexistence, but I will continue to act, not as an authority.
Because whoever applies the law, if it is about their civil situations, they are judged civil; If it is a question of criminal situations, it is the Prosecutor’s Office and then the competent Criminal Judge and what the Executive does is file complaints. Today I have the information, today I don’t need someone to give me a gossip, we have the information.