General compulsory vaccination? Lockdown? CDU man Friedrich Merz calls for “Markus Lanz” to take tough action against those who refuse to be vaccinated.
Hamburg – Markus Lanz will not be able to avoid the corona pandemic on Tuesday evening: At the beginning of the program, Lanz would like to know from star guest Friedrich Merz (CDU) how he, as a possible future CDU party chairman, would describe the situation in the pandemic. “I don’t need to become CDU boss to describe them,” says Merz coolly. “I already have an opinion on that today. I think that we are now at a point where, quite frankly, we must address the corona deniers and those who stubbornly refuse to vaccinate a little more clearly. ”
Bayern, Dortmund and Co .: CDU politician Merz calls for 2G in the stadium for the players too
However, Merz does not consider the general vaccination requirement, which has recently been much debated, to be practicable: “I always ask myself the question: If the state orders something like this – how does it enforce it? Who will do that then? The regulatory agencies? The police? The bailiffs? Who does that? I think there is a much easier, faster way to solve the problem and that would consistently be 2G. Consistently 2G. At work, in all buildings, in the Bundestag, on the soccer field. ”
In the case of the unvaccinated Bayern player Joshua Kimmich, Merz explains: “You can tell him there are two options: Either you get vaccinated, then you play. Or you don’t get vaccinated, then you don’t play. Consequent. At some point this country must now have to take action. “That is, Merz later explains,” in fact a compulsory vaccination, which can probably be enforced much faster than a law that obliges us to vaccinate “.
Lanz: Corona vaccination opponents cause frustration – Merz sees “land held hostage”
Merz’s accusation beyond football: “We are now at a point where this country is being taken hostage by the vaccination opponents and by the corona deniers.”
Host Lanz confronts him with a four-week-old tweet in which he accuses the SPD health expert Karl Lauterbach of spreading exaggerated horror scenarios. Merz admits that he himself underestimated the drama of the situation, but again refers to the unvaccinated: “That’s true. But now you still have to differentiate between the vaccinated and the non-vaccinated. Let’s take this city of Hamburg, today during the day. We have an incidence of 22 vaccinated people here. That’s okay. We have an incidence of over 600 among the non-vaccinated. Factor 30. “Merz ‘opinion:” Now really do something consistently against these corona deniers and vaccination opponents. It is now good to show tolerance and consideration. ”
Lockdown debate at “Markus Lanz” – virologist Timo Ulrichs: “Even those who have been vaccinated must try to reduce contacts now”
The virologist Timo Ulrichs, on the other hand, does not think that 2G alone is the solution: “Basically, all of these measures only come now when the wave is still on the rise and is so high that one can actually only say: The vaccinated also have to try to reduce the number of contacts now and to behave sensibly so that we can simply get out of contact and thus also make it more difficult for the virus to spread. “The journalist Corinna Milborn confirms this with a view to our neighboring country:” It was not enough in Austria . The numbers have continued to rise very sharply. “
“Markus Lanz” – these were his guests on November 23rd:
- Friedrich Merz (CDU) – politician
- Kerstin Münstermann – Rheinische PostJournalist
- Corinna Milborn – journalist
- Timo Ulrichs – virologist
In the second part of the program, host Lanz talks to Merz about his CDU boss ambitions. Merz is calm about the election by the base: “In my opinion, I have always had a lot of approval from the members. I think I have the majority there too. “The fact that he is proposing a male general secretary in his team, Mario Czaja (CDU), is not least due to the membership structure of his party:” This CDU has too few women, including too few young ones Women. I have confidence in many, but assume that for some it is not possible at the moment. I won’t give you any names here this evening either. “
“Again, Mr. Merz, what is it about you”, drilled host Lanz after deeper reasons for the renewed candidacy, “I’ll tell you my theory: It’s the old calculation with Angela Merkel.” Say that, I could have anticipated that “, Merz replied with an emphatic calm and waves him off,” because everyone says that, but it’s nonsense nonetheless. You know, Ms. Merkel is now leaving office, what should I still settle old bills? This is a completely misjudged, overrated situation. I’ve always said that I enjoy political tasks. ”
At “Markus Lanz” – Friedrich Merz with the announcement in the direction of Söder: “This will not happen again under my leadership”
“Markus Söder will continue to cause you real trouble, are you afraid of it?”, Lanz wants to know from Merz. He is undeterred: “No, not at all. He won’t cause me any trouble either. We will work well together. “Merz explains how he comes to this assessment:” Markus Söder has to win a state election in Bavaria in two years’ time, in 2023. He is just as dependent on a well-positioned CSU as he is on good cooperation with the CDU. ”“ The way you look now, it is more of a threat than an amicable offer, ”smiles presenter Lanz. Merz laughs, waves his hand and crosses his arms: “I’m not making any threats.”
The fact that in the struggle for the Union’s candidacy for chancellor there is another situation like that between Söder and Armin Laschet (CDU) must be prevented, says Merz: “It must not be repeated in form, style and content. We have to take care of that together. “The wish of the CDU MP:” We have to develop mechanisms by which we can prepare such personnel decisions earlier in the future and make them together. “Merz ‘message to Munich therefore:” It will not work like this under my leadership happen again. “
“Markus Lanz” – the conclusion of the show
On Tuesday evening, the “Markus Lanz” group will look at the pandemic situation in Germany and questions of power within the CDU. Friedrich Merz shoots himself at unvaccinated people as a pandemic driver and calls for nationwide and without exception 2G measures in Germany. Both the journalist Corinna Milford and the virologist Timo Ulrichs point out that this measure alone is not suitable to stop the exponential spread of the coronavirus. The journalist Kerstin Münstermann comments on the political dimension of the pandemic and Merz ‘plans to become CDU party chairman.
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