On the one hand, the Government and Parliament are grappling with an urgent solution on the blocking of layoffs – we are moving towards a decree to be attached to the train of Support bis – and on the other i labor unions engaged in the last filings of tomorrow’s square initiative precisely to make their voices heard on this issue. On the eve of the appointment, Affaritaliani.it he asked Pierpaolo Bombardieri. The general secretary of Uil, interviewed by our newspaper, immediately clears the field on the event: “It is not an initiative versus, but it is an initiative for: to ask for a halt to layoffs but also to ask for more attention to health and safety in the workplace “.
Secretary, June 30 is approaching. The prevailing orientation, however, is that of the selectivity criterion on textiles. Not quite the solution you want. Is that so?
If we followed the path of selection, we would not agree. It does not convince us and we have also explained why.
Do we reiterate this?
Because identifying a single sector is complicated. Let me give you an example: if the dismissal in textiles is blocked and we prevent companies that produce shirts from firing, what happens to those that make buttons and apply the plastic contract? The problems we face are two: identifying exactly the sectors but without leaving out the induced. This is why, since we think there is still the possibility of using the resources of the Covid cashier, we will continue to argue – we will do it in the squares tomorrow – that this remains the right way to follow to arrive until the end of October, possibly even with the ordinary restricted cash however to the blocking of layoffs. In fact, we are convinced that the conditions, including technical ones, exist to avoid the risk of social disruption in the country.
At the time of Count Two, he complained of an absence of dialogue. Looking at the progress of the Sostegni bis, with the Draghi executive, it does not seem to be going better.
Meanwhile, there is a question of method. And we on this front recognize Draghi’s attention to confrontation with the social partners. However, the results are not always satisfactory. We are satisfied, for example, that in the Sostegni the tender is blocked at the maximum discount and attention is paid to the supply chain of tenders and tenders, but there are some aspects that still do not work, starting from a precise definition of governance, which derives from he agreement signed in Brussels and on the basis of which both individual measures and reform projects are expected to involve the social partners.
In short, lights and shadows?
That’s it. Because if on the one hand we register an attention to comparison, regardless of the outcomes that do not always coincide with our wishes, on the other hand there is no lack of problems. I’ll give you an example.
On the school we have signed an important pact. However, the measures envisaged in the dl Sostegni do not seem to solve the problem of temporary workers and hiring procedures. With the real risk that in September we will find ourselves again in the same situation as in previous years.
Let’s go back to the layoffs node. If, as it seems, the solution that is maturing will not be the one that you will reaffirm in the square tomorrow, can we expect new mobilizations?
For now we are focused on this initiative. Despite the limitation of numbers, we are registering a huge request to participate. And this is a confirmation that the issues of work and the growth of the country are deeply felt. Still on the subject of tomorrow’s demonstration, however, it is right to make it clear immediately that it is not an appointment against, but an appointment for: to ask, in fact, the blocking of layoffs, but also more attention to health and safety at work. There have been more than 300 deaths this year and the rates are rising. This is why the piazzia will be an opportunity to return to forcefully ask for a control room at the Prime Minister’s office. Let’s not forget that the cable car accident happened because the workplace safety verification criteria were skipped to increase the rides. The situation is serious. The feeling, in fact, is that not only are we chasing profit, but we are also trying to recover what has been lost in recent months, to the detriment of the safety of workers and citizens.
Minister Orlando is carrying out the reform of the shock absorbers. How should the Citizenship Income fit into this project?
We have always said that citizenship income has played an important role in a time of great emergency. It was a response to the country’s overall impoverishment, but we also argued from the outset that linking this tool to active policies was a mistake. Today it is necessary to invest in this land, creating a dual system: with large private companies on the one hand and the public system on the other, precisely to be able to have structures dedicated to matching supply and demand. To this we must add a great vocational training plan, not only for young people but also for those who unfortunately will lose their jobs in the coming months.
And what happens to the RdC?
These are all useful elements to recover the positive part of the RdC in the context of the reform of active policies. Including another aspect that we must claim and that is the compulsory nature of training and professional qualification courses for those on layoffs. Although, in reality, we should also be able to obtain from companies – I do not deny that I have my doubts about it – precise answers about the professional skills they need for the future.
The tragedy in front of the gates of the Lidl center in Biandrate has rekindled the spotlight on logistics. Does it make sense to make an ad hoc rule to ensure transparency and respect for rights by subcontractors or the only way out is a stop to outsourcing?
We have been stressing for more than 10 years that logistics is the sector that has suffered more than others from the excessive power of multinationals and from a certain letting go of politics because it was thought that the market could regulate itself. And, instead, the situation has worsened and from the point of view of part time, outsourcing and subcontracting at all costs, once again, it was the male and female workers who paid for it. Given that the logic of the algorithm is also widespread in other business contexts, I believe that it is necessary to act on a double level. We need a mix of legislative interventions, which are able to stop this drift, but also greater corporate responsibility. Some results are being recorded, some contracts have been renewed and some safety criteria have been raised. However, we are far from a satisfactory goal.
We close with the pension reform. Beyond the protections of soft exit from work for some categories, how should you get out of 100?
Quota 100 is a dry both because it requires the coincidence between the age and the years in which the contributions were paid. In fact, if there is no correspondence, one cannot retire. Instead, we need to look at the young people who do non-linear jobs today. For the purposes of the contributions, therefore, the moments in which these people carry out training activities must also be able to count. But this is only one of our priorities.
What are the others?
It is necessary to guarantee women a more equitable system of access to pensions. However, we have a unified proposal on pensions. In our platforms, for example, we insist that those who have reached 41 years of contributions be guaranteed the possibility of retiring regardless of their age and that they think seriously about flexibility in leaving, considering the tasks and work functions performed. and not considering the workers all the same, as happened with Fornero. What we ask of the government is that, as soon as the reform of the shock absorbers is closed, it opens a discussion.