Minister Di Maio, after the administrative meetings you are among those who consider the Giallorossi alliance to be more or less strong
(Smile). “Harder. But I have to explain it better because it is a decisive issue, which also concerns our identity ”.
I ask you right away because it has always been said that you in the M5S were against it.
(Smile, sigh). “I know it. This is why in my book I tell the background of 2018: maybe they will surprise someone “.
Don’t you want to convince me that you, as a leader, already wanted the government with the Democratic Party at the time?
“Instead it went just like that. Some will be surprised, but we conducted a long confidential negotiation, which ended with a twist ”.
Did Di Battista want the pact with Salvini?
“Are you kidding? Alessandro was clear, he did not want pacts with the League. His first option was the Democratic Party ”.
What happened then?
“I was pragmatic, I focused on the Democratic Party. But I could only do it if Renzi accepted ”.
Then?
“It was dealt with in the smallest details, until my ambassadors – my spokesperson, Rubei, and Patuanelli – told me: it’s done”.
What was the twist?
“That I knew how much Renzi still counted, that he governed – let’s talk about 2018 – the parliamentary groups. So I said: in addition to Martina, if he really agrees, he too must pronounce himself ”.
He answered spades, I guess.
“In reverse. He let it be known that he would go to Fazio’s guest and that he would give his blessing to the agreement ”.
I do not believe it.
“I didn’t believe it either. I thought he would express doubts. But I confess that I was amazed when I saw him shout, live: ‘I will do everything to prevent this agreement’. Then we returned to the League. The only alternative was the vote ”.
Impracticable?
“Even though we were the first party, it wasn’t a responsible choice. Thus was born the yellow-green government. If Renzi hadn’t deceived us, the Giallorossi government would have been born already in 2018 “.
Excuse me Minister: you say that the hardest moment of your life was when you took just 64 votes?
(Laughs) “And I was the most voted on the list!”
Let’s tell it.
“The M5S was born in 2009, we were in 2010. Our first time”.
What did he learn from that burning result?
“Very. We grew up only with social media, but competing with the Pomigliano City Council was something else. However, for us it was still a good start “…
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