“We are full of hope”, But “you have to show reason”, to avoid the third epidemic wave of Covid-19, said Patrick Goldstein, head of the emergency department and Samu at the Lille CHRU, on franceinfo Thursday, November 19. “In intramural Lille”, the incidence rate is “around 450 with the Lille metropolis in these figures, there are good reasons to be optimistic”, he added. However “we will have to show reason, be very careful inside the houses”, because “a large part of these contaminations are family contaminations”.
franceinfo: Is the tension still very high in your area? Or is it starting to drop?
Patrick Goldstein: So we are full of hope. Indeed, the incidence rate decreases significantly in the Lille metropolitan area. There was an incidence in cities like Roubaix which was greater than 1,300; today we are around 700 or 800. In intramural Lille, it is around 450 with the Lille metropolis in these figures. , there are good reasons to be optimistic. It is measured and attentive optimism. To tell you about my institution, the Lille University Hospital. There are still 200 positive Covid patients at the Lille University Hospital and among them, there are 100 who are in intensive care, which implies that the tension is still very real.
It is the same illness as during the first wave. They are probably more serious today. The patients who are in intensive care today are in serious condition. Many are on life support. Many are also under circulatory assistance. They will stay in intensive care for a long time. You have to be very clear. It’s still a serious illness. And it is not a disease only of the elderly. This disease can affect anyone.
And you join those who say that the first deconfinement was not successful?
If we succeeded in the first confinement, which was truly citizen, we can all today, with hindsight, admit that deconfinement was not a real success and that we are now paying the costs. We must now consider what will be the result of today’s confinement. Deconfinement, in any case, will have to be both the continuity of confinement and an attempt to return to a certain form of freedom. But we are in a middle ground.
We get the impression that you want to insist on everyone’s sense of responsibility when the time comes to lighten the confinement a little bit for the Christmas holidays?
Today, during the crisis unit at the Lille University Hospital, we talked about the third wave. We talked about the one we don’t want. So, we will absolutely have to, collectively, together, show reason, exercise great caution also inside houses. Today, a large part of these contaminations, we know, are family contaminations.
One of the great French sports today is to divert the measures of this confinement. We must keep this caution. We must be absolutely, all together, reasonable, until we can get vaccinated properly. On the bad events, we can call them like that, which we saw appearing in September.
There were both summer holidays when everyone wanted to relax because the first confinement was indeed hard. We must remember the experience we had on summer vacations and it will be necessary that these winter vacations be as pleasant as possible, measured in terms of family meetings, because social life is absolutely essential. But we must not repeat the same mistakes that we all made together in the summer of 2020.